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Question Seeking Depth is Best
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Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.
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Forgot for a moment how many friends Chou has besides Team Kimba, her team, and Molly. Cuddlebug, awww. Room assignment letter lost in the mail, sounds like something Sun Wu Kong would do alright. Unique way of sensing things, currents of chi, interesting. Ouch, father gone and can only save his soul, all this time I misinterpreted it as abducted with body intact. Rooming with Kayda, after last year with Crimson Comet, like being told you have been upgraded to a deluxe room.
Setting up a room based on Feng Shui, never seen it before, this will be interesting. A Ming vase for Mrs. Horton, whoa, those things run in the millions from what little I know. Oh boy, Kayda upset because her brother had to come to Whateley as well. Tease Danny to death, oh no!

Ranges and security, all her insane changes over the summer are registered, what insane changes! Everyone who gets training from Caitlin seems to always need them to survive something. Gun issued to her by the MCO, internship must have been interesting. New MID, ooo, I want to see it. Ah, due to her being a Junior Agent in the MCO. And caught a robber, it seems the Tao likes directing idiots in her direction to take care of.
Uh oh, thinking the MCO boogiemen are the anomaly, might just be the Boston office is one of the good ones. Patrol schedule for the forest, guessing we've only seen a minor amount of the threats that have come through there ourselves. Toni messed with Oolong, only she would do something so...nuts. Interesting training and lessons from Dyffud and Caitlin, love seeing students like Chou who use their training over their powers. *eyes bug out* And I thought Kayda had an insane amount of training going on.
Part of what happened to Joan of Arc, went insane because the weight of the future was too much to hold up under, heavy. Chou definitely needs time to relax. Joan of Arc being one of the Handmaids of the Tao, major detail, definitely shows more of how the Whateley Academy universe is different. Awww. Dorjee ended the relationship but still friends, didn't see that coming.
Okay, who is this delusional nutbar, thinking Chou is a direct threat to everyone at Whateley, thinking he has to stop her. Drive her away or sanction her, plus he was behind some of the things which happened to Chou last year. Oh, I really want to know who this creep is and see him taken down.
Just being on Team Kimba had been the issue, wonder why. Memories of the last day in China, uh oh. Toni set off an earthquake! Toni got into a fight with Oolong, why do I have the feeling she started the fight or attacked when Oolong said something Toni didn't like. Moving students, goodbye letters to their parents, that is evil! Boy, foolish to think she would give them the real Destiny's Wave.
Whoa, those ofuda are very useful. Yikes, all the powered people still awake are College age or older, not good. Whateley Graduates, they went after Whateley Graduates and brainwashed them. Oh, this was a long time coming. Wall, EX-3 and codenamed Wall because he focuses on defense, Ito would have a field day with him. Huo, pyrokinetic, so brainwashed he unleashes an attack that could hurt even those working with him, just how strong is the brainwashing.
Chinese soldiers and buses for the students, crap! Finally back to Chou meditating. Program weakened the will of people with herbs and magic, yikes! Chou saying she will feed Kayda for a month if Danny is worse than Toni's older brother. No way is he anywhere close to that idiot. Order in pizza from that far away, impressive food delivery service.
Kayda telling Chou about her summer and Chou getting more upset, thinking it is her job to hunt demons, devils, and such. Kayda didn't even know about Chou fighting Voodoo wolves and other things as a Security Auxiliary, they need to communicate more. Awww, Chain Lightning got ordained over the summer, thus can't date anymore. Chou, Molly and him were cute together. Kiss ninja, Molly is picking up nicknames left and right.
Caitlin taking issue with not being annoying most of the time, hehe. Magic class now, wonder what new things she will learn. Winnie's stutter improved, good, like seeing her getting less nervous. Awww, ratting out Danny to Molly, with Chou helping mess with him he never stood a chance against Wondercute. Villain break into her changing room while she was changing, idiot is lucky to have got off with only a broken wrist imo.
MCO Junior Agent, Boston SWAT thinks of her as one of their own, boy, just rack up a few more and she will need a bag for all her badges. Dorjee in those Tibetan Monk Robes, and sending a brother to help with his spiritual training, big change since last year. Caitlin working with them, oh boy, with that kind of training they will improve fast. Gillian Anderson, a finder, this girl is a shipper and thinks Ryan Reynolds and Ryan Gosling would be cute together, oh brother. Great, bribed Molly with a hot fudge Sunday and Molly wants to keep her, I agree with Chou, *groans*
Huh, wonder why the Tao prevented Chou from killing that one soldier. Shifting through shadows, that is new, and taking out the senior program leader, couldn't happen to a 'nicer' guy. Wait, senses screamed and she dragged Sara along with her. Ah, one of the students, Robe of Midnight why she can move through shadows, very powerful artifact.
Jade and Toni being both crazy in their own ways, heh, should go without saying. Scary being the Handmaid of Tao, nice to hear it from Chou's perspective. Teasing Gillian about class reunions after that question, too easy. Super Lindsay, I would stay away, anyone confident enough to use their real name as part of their codename is either a rookie, nuts, or very confident in their abilities.
Oh boy, poor Chou isn't going to get any peace now with Gillian around and Molly already friends with her. And already suggesting a speedster boy for the team, it is like she is part of some plot against Chou, or am I just being paranoid. Hu Chu Lan for the save! Asian Students meeting, I would think what Chou discovered would be of concern to many. Iron Dragon spending more time with his daughter because of what Chou said, dang.
Nice to see Becca Stone again, Chou and Kayda have some of the most interesting teachers. Call will manifest within the year, yikes, that close to the huge event now. Here at the school or involve a lot of the students, so could be HM with what he is plotting, just a guess.
All that and had to unload all her stun ammo on Huo to knock him out, brutal fight. Everyone out and all ready for extraction and more show up, never easy. Ofuda, Caitlin kick her ass for even thinking of doing something so stupid, oh boy. Ouch, now that was reckless, effective but reckless. You can say a lot of things about Chou, give up isn't one of them.
*eyes bug out* Topless! She showed a lot of restraint to not use the five fingered death touch.
Have fun at a security briefing for her job, Dorjee has a sense of humor. Penglai Shan and spending time with the Tapestry, wonder how much it has changed since we last saw it in story. Learn from mistakes and move on, something I could learn myself.Chou snickered. "But Buddhist robes are all the rage these days."
Wasabi peas, never tasted those myself. Both Chou and Kayda having life be crazy, relaxing with a movie. Night at the Museum, after what Kayda went through in Paris, good pick. Mr. Two Knives having the same kind of grin as Ito, noooo! Run! Guan Yu coming back to test them, *head hits desk*.
Ouch, back to China flashback and Chou pinned down by troops. Yikes, almost hit by an RPG, are they trying to kill the students as well, idiots. Lan Caihe Ho, and Chou has to buy time for them to get the students out. And another spared by the Tao, it has its reasons I guess. Dang, taking them out like that, reminded again not to mess with Chou when she is serious.
Dr. Bellows working with Chou again, always a good read. Sun Wu Kong wouldn't leave her alone, hard to worry about something when that nut is around. Sometimes I wonder if Jade is somehow related to him. PTSD, more you can get the symptoms to fade more than get over things, wish psychologists my brother has seen would realize this.
Yikes, creep in a power armor telling her to surrender. The Fist of Heaven, and he is part of a team, no wonder things went worse. More of the Tao filled her, looks like we get to teach someone a lesson. Sliced through arm of armor and blasted backwards by it, priceless. Darn, backup already arrived for FoH. Blasting him to the ground with Ofuda, the rest of his team has arrive, taking on a team of trained adults, yikes doesn't come close to cover it.
One girl and they send a whole team to deal with him, including a sniper, talk about cowards. Pair of Fu dogs, if Chaka hadn't set this off, no wonder Chou wants to smack her one. Whoa...that surge of power and taking down a Fu down in one stroke, awesome. Speedster taken out, but iced up legs, solid hit to the forehead, and flung into the air by the ground erupting around her, this went from brutal to just plain nasty.
A sword fighter and nerve strikes don't work against them, what is he. Summoned a dragon, okay, she is needs to listen and get out of there already. Sun Wu Kong having to drag her out of there, good thing too, even with the Tao a fight against a dragon in her shape is foolish at best. Killed two of the supers, and Caitlin's right, sometimes you have to kill to survive in those situations. One thing I like about Whateley, doesn't have all that stupid 'A hero must never kill, no matter what.' nonsense.
Molly and Chou in the private hot tub, cute. Saved 47 kids and shut down the program, I would consider it all worth it. Bwahaha, Molly, I love it when she is cheesy, and I hope these two are together for a long time.
EuroDisney with two of the immortals and Sun Wu Kong looking like the Monkey Princess, that must have been a lot of fun. Awww, at least she can set his soul to rest in the future and she isn't torturing herself over it anymore. And that is such a touching scene and memories for the finale for the story.
Heather, thank you for coming back and sharing this new story with us. I love seeing Chou interacting with her various friends and girlfriend Molly, all the flashbacks to her adventure in China, and how she has come to peace with so much in her life. This was a wonderful tale and I can't wait to read more of your work in the future, when you are ready of course.
Thank You for story comments appreciated and help me know me they are being read and liked.

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The sudden transitions to flashbacks was confusing, but I guess it's a representation of how she's experiencing things.
she apparently was keeping Molly from becoming a villain simply by loving her.
What. This is just so mysterious? ... What would her villain name be?
Joan of Arc
Huh. Very interesting!
... Shipping Geomancer + Chain Lightning!
... The Tao has to be called for... It doesn't auto-insert itself? Well, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't? Sorta confusing?
- Bladedancer
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And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Yolandria
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Mistress of the shelter for lost and redeemable Woobies!
- Rose Bunny
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High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- Bladedancer
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And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Rose Bunny
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Poor victim looks around... "she must have knocked me through a portal... but to where?" * reads sign that says 'Welcome to Milwaukee'* "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"Bladedancer wrote: That could be so much fun. Dark Gateway would be brutal. Imagine an Evil Rythax helping her... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!
High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- Malady
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Bladedancer wrote: The Tao shows up when it feels needed. It just so happened that it arrived this time.
Hmm...
Or, the Immortals are giving her the Tao... The Immortals control the Tao flow, a lot more than Chou thinks they do? ... Connecting to the Tao connects her to the Immortals? Allowing for them to control her?
Yes, yes. I know, and I agree, that the Tao is a good / positive thing, and I agree... But the Immortals... How do we know they're not like Amateratsu, or something?
Where does Sun Wu Kong rate on the Spirit Ratings? ... Sun Wu Kong Avatar / Paladin?
- Arcanist Lupus
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Crap! A safer facility might make this whole thing more problematic. Chou slipped a hand into her pants
I do not think that that is the proper response to an emergency, young lady!

(Unless of course you're this guy )
Loved the story, glad you're back, and looking forward to more!
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
- Bladedancer
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As for the Tao, it fills people and is not exactly a force others can control. That and the Immortals would never conceive of trying to control the Handmaid. Because of their connection to the Tao they would let it be and offer assistance now and again. There are a number of Immortals and honestly, Chou has only worked with three.
And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Katssun
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This was one of my favorite parts about this story, the narrative flow to it. Chou was either meditating and slipped into the memories, or was talking about it to someone else and then got fully engulfed by the memory. She's having PTSD flashbacks. Same with some of her odd reactions to things, like the 'and that's okay' repeated throughout the story. Some of that is her Taoist view on things, but other times, its like she's almost refusing to engage.Malady wrote: The sudden transitions to flashbacks was confusing, but I guess it's a representation of how she's experiencing things.
I'm guessing from the line right after that, that Molly would have gotten tempted to use her summons and new martial arts abilities against the bullies at home, but had Chou there to keep her calm and keep things in perspective.she apparently was keeping Molly from becoming a villain simply by loving her.
What. This is just so mysterious? ... What would her villain name be?
We learned from the Wondercute/SLJ sim debacle that the girls have a few control issues when things get too personal, and Molly is no exception. Any attack on the bullies at home would put Molly on the run.
- Valentine
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You do know that Chou's angst has nothing on Kayda's angst. In the WU if you look up angst in the dictionary there is a picture of Kayda.
Now maybe a Molly story?
Who or what is Oolong, and why did Toni pick a fight with him? (Google was no help, and since I think that even Grabby could beat up the Oolong from Dragon Ball, I'm guessing it's not him.) Or is that going to be the new "noodle incident," since Phoenix wrote about the old noodle incident.
PS: I'm glad I'm not the only one that has trouble remembering how to spell 'Unhcegila.'
Don't Drick and Drive.
- Iwasforger03
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I am a Sexy Shoeless God of War - So suck it CP!
Dice/Hollow#1
Dice/HollowDiscuss
- Yolandria
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Mistress of the shelter for lost and redeemable Woobies!
- mhalpern
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Kayda 10 part 3 wrote:
Seeking Depth is Best wrote:"I saved 53 Americans who had effectively been legally kidnapped and enslaved...
“At least I saved 47 kids and shut down that program.”
Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
- Rose Bunny
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High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- Bladedancer
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Remember that there were High School Students (Kids) and some college age people (not kids)Rose Bunny wrote: maybe the other 6 were adults?
As for the 'breakup'... Dorjee got ordained, something he has been working for most of his life. There is a vow of chastity involved. They are still friends but him being a full Monk now precludes a relationship. Outside forces.
And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Sir Lee
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I see Heather opted for jumping right into Year 2 instead of doing a bunch of "catch up" stories, and I can't argue with the result, which was unsurprisingly good (and probably more interesting for the author). The flashback structure worked well for that, although it could have been highlighted a bit more -- in at least one place, the action jumps from present to past without even a separating ruler.
However... I still would like to see more of what has happened to Chou (and Molly, for that matter) during the Spring and Summer.
Perhaps... let me drop a suggestion here... instead of committing to full-size stories, a series of vignettes (written whenever the inspiration hits, or whenever Heather feels the need to explain/expand on a particular event)? Just seeing some of the already-known Spring term events from Chou or Molly's perspective could be interesting. Like Chou's initial competitiveness with Kayda, or her holding Molly together after that disastrous sim with STAR League Jr.... or, for only-mentioned stuff, the "changing booth thief" scene, or Chou confronting Molly about her villainous tendencies...
I see Chou accepting better the mantle of the Handmaid -- she did kill a bunch of people, and she would have preferred not having to do so (although she might have made an exception for the Changing Booth Burglar Groper

I saw the Joan of Arc mention and found it particularly interesting (hey, more on that please, perhaps a vignette showing how Chou came to discover this?) -- and I wonder how Pucelle would react if she found out that Chou, in a way, is the true successor of Joan...
Overall, I would say that Heather made a very good comeback. I'm eager to see more.
- Bladedancer
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And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Rose Bunny
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And I'm surprised Boston hasn't banned field trips from Whateley yet.
High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- Bladedancer
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And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Domoviye
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Molly: But I live in Boston, I'm not a tourist or anything!
Bureaucrat: I'm sorry, but no Whateley students are allowed in Boston after the last 'incident'.
Chou: (Drawing her sword) I think you should reconsider your policy.
Good story, nice to see Chou again.
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I like the way Heather has used Chou's meditation and dreams to show us past events in Chou and Mollys life. It works particularly well imo to give us readers details of Chou's recent adventures and at the same time providing us with an "up to date" story

I've always enjoyed Heathers stories and this one has given me immense pleasure

Really, really, really looking forward to your next story Heather

- elrodw
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Actually, the same goes for ALL the canon authors.
Never give up, Never surrender! Captain Peter Quincy Taggert
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That sounds like a perfect lead up to a misunderstanding, where Molly thinks Kayda will be away for the night, so she sneaks into the room to wait for Chou in the nude, but oops... Kayda gets back from the showers dressed in her towel. Then Chou enters, misunderstands, and hilarity ensues.elrodw wrote: Offer is open to Bladedancer - any time you want a past scene as a side-discussion or flashback while Chou and Kayda are training or falling asleep or something, i will be more than happy to put it in a Kayda story.
Actually, the same goes for ALL the canon authors.
High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- Bladedancer
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And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Iwasforger03
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I am a Sexy Shoeless God of War - So suck it CP!
Dice/Hollow#1
Dice/HollowDiscuss
- Valentine
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Good thing Kayda didn't bring Toni to South Dakota, she would have tried to pick a fight with Unhcegila.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- Bladedancer
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And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Rose Bunny
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I vote for a smack over the head with the broadside of Destiny's Wave.Bladedancer wrote: Toni showed up on her own and made lots of trouble without consulting Chou. I still need to write a scene where she Gibbs slaps Toni
High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
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Iwasforger03 wrote: Oolong is listed in the wiki under "Cthulu Mythos" as an ancient Dragon who sided with the courts against the GOOs and was one of the mightiest of all warriors, now sleeping buried under China. It's probable that Toni "poking" or "messing" with Oolong was Toni messing with the ki lines somewhere near his resting place and slightly disturbing his slumber.
Chaka picked up the technique from fighting with the Yama Dojo, called "Steps On the Giant's Toe".
Would this be adapted to "Wakes the Sleeping Dragon"?
Measure Twice
- Domoviye
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Whenever I glance at the title I see, "Seeking DEATH is best"
It's a bit disconcerting.
- Arcanist Lupus
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That's still better than JG's titles, which cause songs to play in my head. "Sunshine and Fury and whiskers on kittens...", and Siblings and SavagesDomoviye wrote: I have one complaint with this story.
Whenever I glance at the title I see, "Seeking DEATH is best"
It's a bit disconcerting.
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
- JG
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Bright Phosphor blazes and warm napalm swimmin.
Tightly held hand grenades thumb-clipped and slinged
These are a few of my favorite things!
- mittfh
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(Tee hee hee! Oh, and yes, I know that won't render - that's the point! I don't think I'd be too popular around here if it did...)
Courtesy of the invite with built-in compulsion spell, we know Chou was expecting her visit to China to be interesting - but probably not as interesting as it turned out to be (nor a certain floor-mate to be the trigger for the ensuing chaos).
Meanwhile, at least back at school, she's now got Kayda for a room-mate rather than the hyperactive CeeCee (I wonder if anyone's going to be daft enough to write a tale from her PoV?), while Dorjee's demotion to friend status is perhaps logical - he often seemed like a spare wheel in the Chou <-> Molly relationship, and with the unconventional status of Kayda and Lainie already known throughout campus {although many probably misinterpret it as a love triangle or other shape [quadrilaterial if they know about Debra, pentagon if they add Tansy}. open non-heterosexual relationships are less of a novelty - plus, regularly training with Kayda plus Molly's association with Wondercute is likely to dampen down much of the more overt displays of dislike for the relationship type).
(Oh, and if JG's sufficiently motivated, could he do a full-size filk of his Favourite Things?

As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!
- konzill
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here's hoping the relationship does not successfully stay in the friend zone. Again we all have our biases, and this is one of mine. That said I'm still reading Just got up to the Finder, she seems interesting, I wonder how many winning lottery tickets she has found.
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As for Gillian... she's pretty crazy. I was working on a stand alone story with her and it was different. Very different.
And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- konzill
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- Bladedancer
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And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Rose Bunny
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Bunny is good with eggs of all sorts... Just sayin'Bladedancer wrote: You never know. For all anyone knows, Molly figured something wild and crazy out and did the deed.
High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- Bladedancer
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And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Anne
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Adopt my story: here
Nowhereville discussion
- Bladedancer
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And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Sir Lee
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- Bladedancer
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And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Rose Bunny
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Sir Lee wrote: Bah. Even in our world there are techniques (experimental, but still exist) to make a viable embryo from two eggs, with no sperm involved. Jobe wouldn't do it because she would consider the task too pedestrian and uninteresting. There are other people, more amenable and less likely to do weird stuff with the embryo "just because."
That's why I said Bunny. She wouldn't screw over her friends like that. And if Bunny can't, Anna could talk to Jerry for them.
High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- Bladedancer
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And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Rose Bunny
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High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- Bladedancer
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And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Rose Bunny
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High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- Bladedancer
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And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- Phoenix Spiritus
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Rose Bunny wrote: Because the evil generated by Elrod and E.E. and Domo, and well... practically all the other writers... is contagious.
I am not evil!
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Nor am I contaminated

- Domoviye
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Leave me out of this. I'm actually using Chou as a meter stick for how evil I can get in every story idea that I've got going now. Go as far as Poetheather goes, and take a few extra steps.Rose Bunny wrote: Because the evil generated by Elrod and E.E. and Domo, and well... practically all the other writers... is contagious.
- null0trooper
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Phoenix Spiritus wrote:
Rose Bunny wrote: Because the evil generated by Elrod and E.E. and Domo, and well... practically all the other writers... is contagious.
I am not evil!
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Nor am I contaminated
Aha! Rose Bunny noted that the other writers are contagious, and here you deny that you are contaminated, thus proving that you indeed are among the infected!
This, of course, begs the question of how she herself became infected.

Forum-posted ideas are freely adoptable.
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- Anne
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Adopt my story: here
Nowhereville discussion
- JG
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- Phoenix Spiritus
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JG wrote: I have no idea what you crazy people are babbling about.
JG. its that "black - grey - white" morality stuff we keep trying to explain to you.
- OtherEric
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Phoenix Spiritus wrote:
JG wrote: I have no idea what you crazy people are babbling about.
JG. its that "black - grey - white" morality stuff we keep trying to explain to you.
That YOU keep trying to explain. The rest of us gave up long ago, other than additions to the "Things JG is not allowed to do" list.
- Rose Bunny
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You are using Chou as the measuring stick? Clearly the Official International Weights and Measurements are set according to Kayda and Nikki.Domoviye wrote:
Leave me out of this. I'm actually using Chou as a meter stick for how evil I can get in every story idea that I've got going now.Rose Bunny wrote: Because the evil generated by Elrod and E.E. and Domo, and well... practically all the other writers... is contagious.
High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- Rose Bunny
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I don't count, I'm not a member of the Cabal.null0trooper wrote:
Phoenix Spiritus wrote:
Rose Bunny wrote: Because the evil generated by Elrod and E.E. and Domo, and well... practically all the other writers... is contagious.
I am not evil!
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Nor am I contaminated
Aha! Rose Bunny noted that the other writers are contagious, and here you deny that you are contaminated, thus proving that you indeed are among the infected!
This, of course, begs the question of how she herself became infected.
High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- Kettlekorn
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Chou has had at least as bad a time as Nikki. She just tends to suffer quietly instead of throwing tantrums all the time.Rose Bunny wrote:
You are using Chou as the measuring stick? Clearly the Official International Weights and Measurements are set according to Kayda and Nikki.Domoviye wrote:
Leave me out of this. I'm actually using Chou as a meter stick for how evil I can get in every story idea that I've got going now.Rose Bunny wrote: Because the evil generated by Elrod and E.E. and Domo, and well... practically all the other writers... is contagious.
- elrodw
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Rose Bunny wrote:
I don't count, I'm not a member of the Cabal.null0trooper wrote:
Phoenix Spiritus wrote:
Rose Bunny wrote: Because the evil generated by Elrod and E.E. and Domo, and well... practically all the other writers... is contagious.
I am not evil!
...
Nor am I contaminated
Aha! Rose Bunny noted that the other writers are contagious, and here you deny that you are contaminated, thus proving that you indeed are among the infected!
This, of course, begs the question of how she herself became infected.
It's called "collateral damage"
And while some may have argued that Kayda was the measuring stick for authors being evil to their characters, I'm being nice. A cuddly little teddy bear. All sweetness and light to my characters. Danny gets lots of kissy-kissy in exchange for a little bullying, right? And Kayda has her head screwed on correctly, right? 'Shine is 'Shine - nothing flaps him. And Laura - she's just a happy little princess that no-one would dare cause any grief to! So my characters can't be ISO measuring sticks for evil!
Never give up, Never surrender! Captain Peter Quincy Taggert
- Rose Bunny
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elrodw wrote: And while some may have argued that Kayda was the measuring stick for authors being evil to their characters, I'm being nice. A cuddly little teddy bear. All sweetness and light to my characters. ...Kayda has her head screwed on correctly, right?
Well, she does now...
But still... changing gender, getting beaten-twice, gang-raped, horrible bouts of PTSD, forced into a situation with unstoppable involuntary sex, accused of murder, getting her magic and access to her spirits locked away, being informed that all that wasn't actually supposed to happen-rather that the role She was cast into was supposed to be her daughter's, having high level Class X entities stalking her all across the US, being manipulated by family to be a messianic figure, Further manipulated into learning magics that she isn't supposed to learn-ones that can turn her from her path.
Yeah, you are all peaches and cream to her.
High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan
- Katssun
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Everyone else is nice to their characters compared. You sympathize with Kayda, the outcasts, and Chou. You can only pity Sky and Cav for what was done to them.
- Domoviye
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Basically I looked at my daughter and asked myself, "removing rape and murder what are the worst things I can imagine happening to her?"
One character got almost every single idea I thought of, another got the left over ones, and the rest got their fair share.
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your exclusions put you one behind Elrod.Domoviye wrote: I wonder what people will think of some of my characters.
Basically I looked at my daughter and asked myself, "removing rape and murder what are the worst things I can imagine happening to her?"
One character got almost every single idea I thought of, another got the left over ones, and the rest got their fair share.
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- Bladedancer
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And I swear by my pretty floral bonnet that I will end you. - Captain Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
- null0trooper
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Rose Bunny wrote:
your exclusions put you one behind Elrod.Domoviye wrote: I wonder what people will think of some of my characters.
Basically I looked at my daughter and asked myself, "removing rape and murder what are the worst things I can imagine happening to her?"
One character got almost every single idea I thought of, another got the left over ones, and the rest got their fair share.
Wasn't one of your own FF/WhatIF characters shot and left for dead before being repeatedly raped?
Ruth/Isaac Graber did have one hell of a bad series of experiences, though at least they were raised by a family that gave a damn about them.
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- Rose Bunny
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null0trooper wrote: Wasn't one of your own FF/WhatIF characters shot and left for dead before being repeatedly raped?
She wasn't shot, but was beaten up to the point of the burnout that caused the gender change. and Yes, she was raped, but at the time she didn't know enough to know anything beyond it being a biological function, and by the time she did know what sex was, she just thought it was something that felt good, and allowed it.
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- Iwasforger03
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I could tell a few stories about the backgrounds I give my dnd/pathfinder characters if you like.
Still, I don't consider those to be half so awful, (largely because they're not fully formed stories yet the way Whateley is) as what Bek, Maggie, Babs, Elrod, Nalley, etc will do to their own. In fact, ya'll (excluding Elrod cause I hadn't read any Kayda back when I formed this habit) are the likely source of my being so cruel. So yes, It's definitely Contagious.
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Sir Lee wrote: You are forgetting Renae. Merry did NOT have a nice life.
You beat me too it! Merry/Mai/Chad/Chaddy / Petra&Paige is/are still my benchmark for "horrible things that can happen to a character". Just the fact that explaining who they are is so absurdly complicated just makes my point.
In chronological order (more or less):
Brutally trained to murder mutants as a child
Watched brother get killed by uncle while father watched.
Given drugs that made him loopy
Had his entire family killed
Grew unwelcome genitals
Started fighting undercover war against an evil AI
uncovered horrible experiments
Psychically brainwashed to shield from trauma
Watched surrogate brother figure get killed
taken in by authority figures, who drugged and tortured him
'rescued' to another facility where he starts healing people, which comes with extra torture and snake-vomiting
gets rescued from that, only to be captured and turned into a were-puma, gets her arm torn off in the process
After all this Petra goes to Rome where she will end up faking her own death by mostly killing herself to the point where she has to relearn how to walk and use utensils.
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
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I wouldn't be surprised if the egg into sperm transformation idea someone brought wasn't neatly packaged in a disposable one-use gadget that looked like a strapon. When activated it acquires an egg, performs some voodoo, and then ejaculates when "surrounding conditions" are appropriate.
