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Question To skip, or not to skip?

8 years 10 months ago #1 by Polk Kitsune
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  • So it's been a looooooong time since I started to read the Whateley stories. A long time, and by then, I had ambitions, and illusions that I could do reviews of every single stories there were. I could pump out enough reviews to pull at least one a day, and with every stories, the reviews got longer, and more complex, and more sparse.

    Now as much as I want to give comments, encouragements and critiques about what I read...

    There was no way I could continue that way.

    And part of that guilt is why I've fallen so far behind on reading the original cannon. Kept telling myself I should do a review before continuing, and a developing case of AD-OMGSHINY was growing, along with sleep issues, and procrastination flourished. But I'm reading, making progress, and I do wana get caught back up.

    That is, I'm... Quite behind, to say the least. I'm going by the order in the Wiki, and at this point, I'm at Jade 8, and pretty much in the middle of the combat finals. Looking down the list, I have a looooooooooooooooooooooooong way to go.

    It's up to the point where a few friends of mine have proposed that I skip some of these stories, and I'm tempted. I'll be honest, I've already jumped a few, and it's not too far to go back for them. I just don't know if it's necessary. I do feel bad for saying I'm skipping some people's hard work in writing, but at this pace, I won't be done until 2055. Considering recently there's a second cannon story that I might wana start reading at some point, I may have to consider this.

    Is there anything I should skip over to make things faster? Or stories that are essential to make sense later?
    8 years 10 months ago #2 by Ametros
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  • Personally, I'd recommend not skipping stories, but I happen to like just about every single one.

    It's not unfair to consider doing reviews for every single story daunting, considering how prolific many authors are individually, let alone combined. But if you want to stick with it, perhaps shift focus to the gen 2 stories, as they're fewer in number currently and follow a different timeline - find out if it's the reviews themselves, or just the daunting amount of Gen 1 that has you stalled.

    I'd suggest trying to find your own enjoyment first though, and not feel beholden to providing these reviews if it just ends with you avoiding the stories.

    Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
    8 years 10 months ago #3 by Kristin Darken
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  • As much as I like your reviews Polk, I'm going to give you the same advice I give authors who are feeling burned out. No one is paying you to do this. The whole point is supposed to be that you are enjoying yourself... so, read what you want. Write reviews where you want to. Skip stories and read the ones you want to read if that's what you want to do. There ARE places in the timeline that this will be confusing as hell because of key plot advancements But not 'every' story has to be read to make sense of the whole arc.

    Do what makes you happy. Life's too short to force yourself to something that is frustrating.

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    8 years 10 months ago - 8 years 10 months ago #4 by DanZilla
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  • It's tough to recommend skipping any... at the point you're at you've got the Combat Finals coming-up and Christmas... I'd recommend sticking with it through the Christmas stories... once you get through those a lot of the Team Kimba characters really stopped having POV stories...I think the Ayla stories kept-up into spring and there's a pretty good Tennyo Story for Spring Vacation... There were also some Chou stories which continued her pulling away from Team Kimba and doing more of her own things...

    After those you'll want to make sure you hop over to the Loophole stories and Kayda when she gets there...

    But... as I started, it's tough to recommend skipping any since there some great stuff in there...

    My best recommendation is to just start reading your way through them and, if any of them REALLY affect you, then write something about that one... don't try to critique and review everything... that way lies madness. There are over 70 books worth of material written...

    If after catching-up you decide that you'd like to go back and write some reviews, then do so... but I think the authors would much rather you read and enjoyed the material without saying so than delaying the reading to comment on each and every one.
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    8 years 10 months ago #5 by elrodw
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  • DanZilla wrote: If after catching-up you decide that you'd like to go back and write some reviews, then do so... but I think the authors would much rather you read and enjoyed the material without saying so than delaying the reading to comment on each and every one.


    What he said.
    Actually, what Dan and Kristin both said. I'd rather have a 20-word general "here's what I liked or didn't" in the general-purpose story arc than a detailed review. Mind you, reviews are nice, but Kristin said it best. You're not being paid to review. These stories are written by amateur authors for your enjoyment. So enjoy them.

    I can't speak for the others, but you don't owe me anything in terms of a review. If you read and enjoy, I've done good enough. Read for the simple pleasure of the stories.

    Seriously. Dan and Kristin have good advice. Read and enjoy. Don't worry about writing reviews. That's what the stories were written for.

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    8 years 10 months ago - 8 years 10 months ago #6 by Polk Kitsune
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  • I see. I see. I understand what you mean entirely, and I'll keep it to heart. Read what I can, what I want, and review when I feel like it. Wise words, which I should keep to heart. Definitively.

    It's true I'm not getting paid for it, but I did start the reviews nonetheless. I didn't feel forced to it. I did it, because A) I'd just left a group of forum RPers, who made me feel extremely unappreciated, and I realized how a good pat on the back felt. I wanted to give that to a group of writers who I thought deserved it, and that led to B ) I loved being able to talk about the stories, and discuss how it all felt. I felt like I had a bit of an impact, and at the same time, I was making a difference, and I wasn't alone into it. That really drove me. Those two parts were my carrots at the end of the stick. Guess that may have slipped after a bit.

    What was the last story I was supposed to review? Looking back? Oh yeah. The Parent's day. Wonderful story, a lot of points of views, and lots of things going on. But every time I was about to review it, I told myself I had to re-read it all, then divide it into sections, since it's all done by different authors, and different styles, it felt like such a task, I never got to pull up the drive not to go for something else... So I kept reading after.... And kept reading. I hungered for more stories.

    Hrmmm. Let me play a little catchup then on some of the noteworthy content.

    Boston Brawl 2: Good action story, more development on some villains, there's some story developing there, and it was interesting to see things unfold, and change this way, especially when the villains make a few idiotic mistakes, but most of it was action sequences, and with so many characters, it was a little hard to keep a straight head.

    For Merry... Well, me and Merry have some history, I'm afraid, and although it gets better, and I can definitively sympathize with her, it makes a painful thing to follow. Painful, is that nothing seems to really settle down with her. There's always a new threat, or a new even that changes everything. The escape was handled... So quick, in a fashion, it was underwhelming? Well, it worked...

    One of the moments I will admit though, was when Merry was being picked up by the were-people, got turned, and her arm chopped off. I don't say it often, but I had a murderous feeling climbing up in my veins. My blood was boiling. She was about to have some peace, she was about to get to Whateley. I thought those were had instructions too! But the FUDGE IT UP! AGH! All for politics! Luckily, it all turned out for the best, but thinking back on it, I just wanted to shake the whole lot of them.

    But I've read some of the Petra stories, and... I don't know. It doesn't seem like things will stabilize anytime soon, and it might not affect what's happening in Whateley. It's on my short list.

    Jade 6 - Dreams and Awakenings: Poor, poor Jade. Things were looking up, she was having a good thing, and then the BIT slicer doesn't work, so she starts cutting herself up...And then the ritual robs her of her female form as a spirit. If what happened to Merry upset me, Jade here really slammed into me. It was a tragedy, and she didn't deserve to have so much taken from her. At least things got patched up in the end.

    Ayla and the Networks - This one was interesting, again, like most Dianne stories, filled with so many details, it's hard to tell filler from core elements, and it's both interesting, and loooong for it. What I do want to mention on this one though, is that although there is a mostly central plot to the story, there are WAAAYYY too many characters involved. There were at least six teams involved, each one of them going from three to six characters each? So when the action and the climax happens at the end, and they all match up together? I got so lost in no time flat. I'm lucky though, that each teams had their own quirks, and personalities to make them feel different, so I could appreciate them, and properly put them apart, otherwise, I would have had trouble. It's the story that needs a map, and a chart to keep track of.

    Caitlin, the Grunts, and Outcast Corner - I've been through a lot of these stories, and to be honest, I've been eating through them. like crazy. I looooooooved reading them, especially Caitlin... Though part of it, might be the TG element involved, but it wasn't completely central to what was happening, there was a lot of other baggage put on the front stage.

    The characters are funny, hilarious at times, even if they feel miserable at some moments, or full of themselves. In real life, they would cause so much trouble, and so many issues to the establishment, but written as they are, you're taken through a ride, and you can get why they act this way. You can get why Caitlin is so rough, and enjoys tormenting others, like the recruiters, or those who deserve it. You get to enjoy Jericho's reaction to everything, even when most people would feel down at some point. It's not always about jokes either, there's a lot of issues going on, lots of hard work, trauma, and danger, but I kept on wanting to read more. It was a roller coaster of emotions. When they had a victory, I was pumping my fist with them. When Caitlin was almost enslaved, I felt genuinely worried, even if I knew she'd get out of it. The only issue I might have, is the repeat of 'I know I need to solve this thing, but I need to do it myself' routine'. I get why it's said, I get why it's explained to every characters offering to help, but when they repeat it to Fey, as a reader, I had enough, and just wanted her to get some help. When she finally told the Outcast, I had a mental moment of 'FINALLY!'

    Unfortunately, I heard a few times, that these stories aren't finished, and that's... Really sad. I do wish I'd seen much, much more out of these characters. It was so good.

    So far, I've skipped Tennyo goes to Hell, Aquerna, and some of the one-shot combat finals (though certainly not all of them). I'll have to turn back, and read some of those then.

    Still, these notes were written quickly, and some, I wish I could elaborate, and pick out a few moments, but my memory may be a bit off kilter...

    ... And it is currently 2 AM. This is what happens when my brain decides I've got to put it all into words 'right now', and I get into a run.
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    8 years 9 months ago #7 by Astrodragon
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  • I would suggest commenting on the 'current' releases - for Gen1, the Kayda and later stuff, and Gen2. As these are ongoing arcs by authors who are currently writing Whateley stuff, I think you will get more interest and possible feedback than for the older stories. And it cuts the load down to a managable level.

    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
    8 years 9 months ago #8 by Polk Kitsune
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  • I know that bit, certainly. The more recent pieces are going to get more attention. Issue is though, I'm not there quite yet. It'd be a whiiiiiile before I can catch up. Part of why I considered moving forward. I'll have to see.
    8 years 9 months ago #9 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • I suggest reading through and catching up, from there you can then decided to re-read and review the stories you think are important.

    One thing to think about, the Gen 2 authors, as well as Elrod, E. E. and Morpheus are going quite fast, with Kristin managing to maintain a release or two (or more) each week for many months now.

    From the angst you already have, I doubt one or two reveiws a week is something you could sustain long term.
    8 years 9 months ago #10 by Polk Kitsune
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  • One review or two a week? You'd be surprised. If I put my mind to it, it should be too hard. Maybe even streamline the process I used to take.

    Usually started by reading the story, non-stop, then re-read, making notes, and points, before going through the story, scene by scene, maybe tryign to put in a fitting reaction to it. I didn't need to go through things scene by scene though, and that might have bogged me down. Best to stick to the points that stick out.

    But yeah, catching up is important. Need to read more, more often.
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